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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://ctlocalpolitics.net//2009/07/06/guest-post-schiff-at-tea-party-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-46994</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 08:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brenda,

I&#039;m familiar with the requirements of Chapter 155 and I&#039;ve added the treasurer&#039;s name where it belongs. That was an oversight that I thank you for pointing out. I&#039;m not here campaigning. I&#039;ve read and participated in CTLP for years. 

Technically, yes. I&#039;m a petitioning candidate and not a member of the Independent Party. I will be on the ballot as a petitioning candidate, but I consider myself independent of any political party, which is why I use that terminology. I was a Democrat from the time I was eligible to vote and left the party not because I think they&#039;ve done a terrible job, but because I question the usefulness of political parties and don&#039;t feel entirely comfortable affiliating myself with either of them.

ACR,

I count several friends among the members of the Town Council. I plan on actively supporting at least a couple of them. Ed Pocock and Chris Palmieri are two of the hardest working and most dedicated public servants our town will ever have. Michael Riccio and Dave Zoni are two of the smartest people I&#039;ve met. I don&#039;t think partisanship drives every decision they make, but I also think that preserving their party&#039;s power is a factor that they need to consider when they cast votes. I just happen to align myself with neither party and find that approach to fit me better. Partisanship doesn&#039;t cripple government, but I believe that it is an impediment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brenda,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m familiar with the requirements of Chapter 155 and I&#8217;ve added the treasurer&#8217;s name where it belongs. That was an oversight that I thank you for pointing out. I&#8217;m not here campaigning. I&#8217;ve read and participated in CTLP for years. </p>
<p>Technically, yes. I&#8217;m a petitioning candidate and not a member of the Independent Party. I will be on the ballot as a petitioning candidate, but I consider myself independent of any political party, which is why I use that terminology. I was a Democrat from the time I was eligible to vote and left the party not because I think they&#8217;ve done a terrible job, but because I question the usefulness of political parties and don&#8217;t feel entirely comfortable affiliating myself with either of them.</p>
<p>ACR,</p>
<p>I count several friends among the members of the Town Council. I plan on actively supporting at least a couple of them. Ed Pocock and Chris Palmieri are two of the hardest working and most dedicated public servants our town will ever have. Michael Riccio and Dave Zoni are two of the smartest people I&#8217;ve met. I don&#8217;t think partisanship drives every decision they make, but I also think that preserving their party&#8217;s power is a factor that they need to consider when they cast votes. I just happen to align myself with neither party and find that approach to fit me better. Partisanship doesn&#8217;t cripple government, but I believe that it is an impediment.</p>
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		<title>By: ACR</title>
		<link>http://ctlocalpolitics.net//2009/07/06/guest-post-schiff-at-tea-party-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-46993</link>
		<dc:creator>ACR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 06:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What’s truly arrogant is when one party thinks they can govern without including their colleagues across the aisle. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes the Council Chair can&#039;t seem to tone it down lately.
In his defense he does work at the Capitol,  a politically charged environment, and it must be difficult for the poor fellow to turn it off when he gets home.

Otherwise the other 8 largely get along pretty well and the level of bi-partisan respect and cooperation is better than even most Southington citizens are accustomed to.
Some have served on various other non-political committees together as well.

Even those residents  who *are* partisans here tend to know when to put it away.

My step-daughter for example,  a lifelong registered Republican, the daughter of a late Commissioner, who was also my immediate predecessor  on the  Republican State Central Committee,  (and she&#039;s married to your cousin once removed no-less);  recently purchased a new home and is closing in less than 4 weeks.

Who do you think their real-estate agent is?

The Chair of the local Democratic Town Central Committee;  a woman I&#039;ve known and trusted for years, and have had on speed-dial for decades as well.

One member of the Council&#039;s father is the God Father to another member of the Council and the two are not in the same party.

Sometimes people simply don&#039;t agree on specifics and when the budget gets tight it&#039;s natural for  people to have differing views as to what *has* to be saved and what can be put off a year or so.

Assuming such disagreements are always partisan in nature would be a mistake, especially here where the majority of office holders regardless of affiliation **strongly** believe - town first; party second.

The majority of politically active Republicans certainly don&#039;t agree with  one of the more prominent Democratic  Council members all the time.
Few Republicans would fail to defend his personal honor however, as we know him to be a good and decent man.....even when he&#039;s off on some tangent that we collectively don&#039;t agree with.

I believe you might be over-estimating the impact of partisanship in the Town of Southington.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What’s truly arrogant is when one party thinks they can govern without including their colleagues across the aisle. </p></blockquote>
<p>Yes the Council Chair can&#8217;t seem to tone it down lately.<br />
In his defense he does work at the Capitol,  a politically charged environment, and it must be difficult for the poor fellow to turn it off when he gets home.</p>
<p>Otherwise the other 8 largely get along pretty well and the level of bi-partisan respect and cooperation is better than even most Southington citizens are accustomed to.<br />
Some have served on various other non-political committees together as well.</p>
<p>Even those residents  who *are* partisans here tend to know when to put it away.</p>
<p>My step-daughter for example,  a lifelong registered Republican, the daughter of a late Commissioner, who was also my immediate predecessor  on the  Republican State Central Committee,  (and she&#8217;s married to your cousin once removed no-less);  recently purchased a new home and is closing in less than 4 weeks.</p>
<p>Who do you think their real-estate agent is?</p>
<p>The Chair of the local Democratic Town Central Committee;  a woman I&#8217;ve known and trusted for years, and have had on speed-dial for decades as well.</p>
<p>One member of the Council&#8217;s father is the God Father to another member of the Council and the two are not in the same party.</p>
<p>Sometimes people simply don&#8217;t agree on specifics and when the budget gets tight it&#8217;s natural for  people to have differing views as to what *has* to be saved and what can be put off a year or so.</p>
<p>Assuming such disagreements are always partisan in nature would be a mistake, especially here where the majority of office holders regardless of affiliation **strongly** believe &#8211; town first; party second.</p>
<p>The majority of politically active Republicans certainly don&#8217;t agree with  one of the more prominent Democratic  Council members all the time.<br />
Few Republicans would fail to defend his personal honor however, as we know him to be a good and decent man&#8230;..even when he&#8217;s off on some tangent that we collectively don&#8217;t agree with.</p>
<p>I believe you might be over-estimating the impact of partisanship in the Town of Southington.</p>
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		<title>By: Brenda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Also, I didn’t intend to turn this into a discussion of Southington politics or my campaign. I was merely surprised at Schiff’s comment about why he isn’t running as an independent.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

 NO ONE even mentioned &quot;Southington politics&quot; here other than you with that picture of your lawn sign that appears here every time you post.  You&#039;re clearly campaigning for yourself and as I mentioned earlier, you&#039;re violating campaign finance laws.  You claim to be running as an &quot;Independent&quot; when you really mean a petitioning candidate which is strange since you voted in the presidential preference primary last year which obviously means you were registered with one of the two major parties as recently as last year.  Why won&#039;t you tell us which party that was?

If you think you&#039;re campaign finance problems will go away by continuing to ignore them rather than complying with the law, the SEEC has a few costly lessons to teach you and your treasurer.  You&#039;re being stubborn or you&#039;re just plain ignorant.  Either way, you&#039;re wrong so do yourself a favor and review Chapter 155 of the statutes and put the proper attributions where they belong or just stop violating the law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Also, I didn’t intend to turn this into a discussion of Southington politics or my campaign. I was merely surprised at Schiff’s comment about why he isn’t running as an independent.</p></blockquote>
<p> NO ONE even mentioned &#8220;Southington politics&#8221; here other than you with that picture of your lawn sign that appears here every time you post.  You&#8217;re clearly campaigning for yourself and as I mentioned earlier, you&#8217;re violating campaign finance laws.  You claim to be running as an &#8220;Independent&#8221; when you really mean a petitioning candidate which is strange since you voted in the presidential preference primary last year which obviously means you were registered with one of the two major parties as recently as last year.  Why won&#8217;t you tell us which party that was?</p>
<p>If you think you&#8217;re campaign finance problems will go away by continuing to ignore them rather than complying with the law, the SEEC has a few costly lessons to teach you and your treasurer.  You&#8217;re being stubborn or you&#8217;re just plain ignorant.  Either way, you&#8217;re wrong so do yourself a favor and review Chapter 155 of the statutes and put the proper attributions where they belong or just stop violating the law.</p>
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		<title>By: Dempsey Dem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dempsey Dem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I prefer to celebrate the Fourth by honoring America, it&#039;s Government, and our leaders.

It obviously takes a differrent sort to &#039;celebrate&#039; by tearing down the Government and it&#039;s elected leaders...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer to celebrate the Fourth by honoring America, it&#8217;s Government, and our leaders.</p>
<p>It obviously takes a differrent sort to &#8216;celebrate&#8217; by tearing down the Government and it&#8217;s elected leaders&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://ctlocalpolitics.net//2009/07/06/guest-post-schiff-at-tea-party-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-46981</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Samuel,

I went from my personal Twitter to using it for the campaign and deleted all the old updates. That&#039;s why that one is gone.

Also, I didn&#039;t intend to turn this into a discussion of Southington politics or my campaign. I was merely surprised at Schiff&#039;s comment about why he isn&#039;t running as an independent. 

I agree with Anderson that he doesn&#039;t have much of a shot at the Republican nomination. We&#039;re also a state that has elected third party candidates as Governor and Senator over the last two decades or so. On top of that, Ron Paul, who Schiff has advised, supported third party candidates for President in 2008. I thought if anyone was likely to pursue an independent candidacy, it would be Schiff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Samuel,</p>
<p>I went from my personal Twitter to using it for the campaign and deleted all the old updates. That&#8217;s why that one is gone.</p>
<p>Also, I didn&#8217;t intend to turn this into a discussion of Southington politics or my campaign. I was merely surprised at Schiff&#8217;s comment about why he isn&#8217;t running as an independent. </p>
<p>I agree with Anderson that he doesn&#8217;t have much of a shot at the Republican nomination. We&#8217;re also a state that has elected third party candidates as Governor and Senator over the last two decades or so. On top of that, Ron Paul, who Schiff has advised, supported third party candidates for President in 2008. I thought if anyone was likely to pursue an independent candidacy, it would be Schiff.</p>
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		<title>By: SamuelCT</title>
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		<dc:creator>SamuelCT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim, where did &lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/18EHux&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this tweet&lt;/a&gt; go?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, where did <a href="http://bit.ly/18EHux" rel="nofollow">this tweet</a> go?</p>
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		<title>By: SamuelCT</title>
		<link>http://ctlocalpolitics.net//2009/07/06/guest-post-schiff-at-tea-party-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-46972</link>
		<dc:creator>SamuelCT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;There is no conceit in wanting to cast a vote on an issue without worrying about what party is in power.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The conceit is two sided: first, to believe that the elected members of a board are governed totally by that aspect of their identity and experience, and secondly to believe that an independent would be immune from the tidal forces of public opinion that cause people to group themselves into organizations that advance a common agenda in the first place. It is either a cartoonish underestimation of the people you&#039;d like to call your peers, or an overweening belief in your own superiority. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;What’s truly arrogant is when one party thinks they can govern without including their colleagues across the aisle.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If that&#039;s the case in your town, or at any level, we have a mechanism for periodically altering the makeup of our legislatures to throw out anyone with a needlessly arrogant style of governing. Americans rejected the way that Republicans froze out Democrats in Congress, and elected more Democrats. Connecticut residents don&#039;t seem to mind how Dems in the state legislature freeze out the Republicans -- but when they &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; come to object to that practice, we&#039;ll all know it at about 9 p.m. on election night.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Those independent of either political party are freed up to work with both Democrats and Republicans.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Those inside of a political party are free to work with both as well. Many do. You presume that those individuals are not free to forge alliances that advance the goals they were elected to accomplish.

&lt;blockquote&gt;There is nothing conceited about forging compromise.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The conceit is to believe that, without experience or allies on the board, that 1) you alone have the ability to bring about an outcome that the public desires, and that 2) those who have been elected and re-elected over time are completely unable to perceive the public&#039;s interest and reap the benefits of serving it from their position. 

If you were running for a position in a town where 90% of the population were residents of a mental institution, maybe it would be reasonable to believe that the political calvinball you&#039;re describing was the way of things, and that you alone have the ability to part the waters and bring your people to the promised land.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There is no conceit in wanting to cast a vote on an issue without worrying about what party is in power.</p></blockquote>
<p>The conceit is two sided: first, to believe that the elected members of a board are governed totally by that aspect of their identity and experience, and secondly to believe that an independent would be immune from the tidal forces of public opinion that cause people to group themselves into organizations that advance a common agenda in the first place. It is either a cartoonish underestimation of the people you&#8217;d like to call your peers, or an overweening belief in your own superiority. </p>
<blockquote><p>What’s truly arrogant is when one party thinks they can govern without including their colleagues across the aisle.</p></blockquote>
<p>If that&#8217;s the case in your town, or at any level, we have a mechanism for periodically altering the makeup of our legislatures to throw out anyone with a needlessly arrogant style of governing. Americans rejected the way that Republicans froze out Democrats in Congress, and elected more Democrats. Connecticut residents don&#8217;t seem to mind how Dems in the state legislature freeze out the Republicans &#8212; but when they <i>do</i> come to object to that practice, we&#8217;ll all know it at about 9 p.m. on election night.</p>
<blockquote><p>Those independent of either political party are freed up to work with both Democrats and Republicans.</p></blockquote>
<p>Those inside of a political party are free to work with both as well. Many do. You presume that those individuals are not free to forge alliances that advance the goals they were elected to accomplish.</p>
<blockquote><p>There is nothing conceited about forging compromise.</p></blockquote>
<p>The conceit is to believe that, without experience or allies on the board, that 1) you alone have the ability to bring about an outcome that the public desires, and that 2) those who have been elected and re-elected over time are completely unable to perceive the public&#8217;s interest and reap the benefits of serving it from their position. </p>
<p>If you were running for a position in a town where 90% of the population were residents of a mental institution, maybe it would be reasonable to believe that the political calvinball you&#8217;re describing was the way of things, and that you alone have the ability to part the waters and bring your people to the promised land.</p>
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		<title>By: SamuelCT</title>
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		<dc:creator>SamuelCT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Plus it could lead to something like the Brits have; which amounts to shear bedlam; take a look at how many political parties are over there and you’ll understand why they’re in far worse shape than even we are.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Connecticut has at least 19 political parties (see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sots.ct.gov/sots/lib/sots/electionservices/registration_and_enrollment_stats/2008_registration_and_enrollment_statistics.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;), with a couple more that have appeared on ballots that aren&#039;t included in that list. 19 parties for our 3.5 million people looks pretty wild when compared to the UK&#039;s 44 for 61 million people. Connecticut has nearly 10 times as many parties per capita.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Plus it could lead to something like the Brits have; which amounts to shear bedlam; take a look at how many political parties are over there and you’ll understand why they’re in far worse shape than even we are.</p></blockquote>
<p>Connecticut has at least 19 political parties (see <a href="http://www.sots.ct.gov/sots/lib/sots/electionservices/registration_and_enrollment_stats/2008_registration_and_enrollment_statistics.pdf" rel="nofollow">here</a>), with a couple more that have appeared on ballots that aren&#8217;t included in that list. 19 parties for our 3.5 million people looks pretty wild when compared to the UK&#8217;s 44 for 61 million people. Connecticut has nearly 10 times as many parties per capita.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The idea of being an independent in the system we have today is just the conceit of a truly self-aggrandizing politician — someone who believes that they alone can be a force for change without working from within a community of peers.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There is no conceit in wanting to cast a vote on an issue without worrying about what party is in power. What&#039;s truly arrogant is when one party thinks they can govern without including their colleagues across the aisle. Those independent of either political party are freed up to work with both Democrats and Republicans. There is nothing conceited about forging compromise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The idea of being an independent in the system we have today is just the conceit of a truly self-aggrandizing politician — someone who believes that they alone can be a force for change without working from within a community of peers.</p></blockquote>
<p>There is no conceit in wanting to cast a vote on an issue without worrying about what party is in power. What&#8217;s truly arrogant is when one party thinks they can govern without including their colleagues across the aisle. Those independent of either political party are freed up to work with both Democrats and Republicans. There is nothing conceited about forging compromise.</p>
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		<title>By: ACR</title>
		<link>http://ctlocalpolitics.net//2009/07/06/guest-post-schiff-at-tea-party-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-46969</link>
		<dc:creator>ACR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; Running as an independent would be healthy for democracy, not a waste of time.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

For starters the operative word in a 2 party system that you might want to consider is &quot;crossfire&quot;.

Not that a 3rd party or no-party candidate can&#039;t win; but it&#039;s a sure way to draw fire from two sources instead of only one.

Plus it could lead to something like the Brits have; which amounts to shear bedlam; take a look at how many political parties are over there and you&#039;ll understand why they&#039;re in far worse shape than even we are.

Labour Party
Conservative Party
Liberal Democrats
Democratic Unionist Party
Scottish National Party
Sinn Féin
Plaid Cymru - Party of Wales
Social Democratic and Labour Party
Independent Kidderminster Hospital and Health Concern
Respect Coalition
Ulster Unionist Party
Scottish Green Party
Alliance Party of Northern Ireland
Progressive Unionist Party
Green Party in Northern Ireland
Green Party of England and Wales
UK Independence Party
British National Party
Boston Bypass Independents
Community Action Party
Community (London Borough of Hounslow)
England First Party
English Democrats Party
English Progressive and Liberty Party
Free England Party
Idle Toad
Mebyon Kernow
Men&#039;s Representative Party
Middlewich First
Miss Great Britain Party
Money Reform Party
Morecambe Bay Independents
Mum&#039;s Army
Residents Associations of Epsom and Ewell
National Liberal Party - The Third Way
One London
People Against Bureaucracy Group
Popular Alliance
Roman Party Ave!
SOS! Voters Against Overdevelopment of Northampton
Social Democratic Party
South Tyneside Progressives,
Southampton First
Wessex Regionalist Party</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> Running as an independent would be healthy for democracy, not a waste of time.</p></blockquote>
<p>For starters the operative word in a 2 party system that you might want to consider is &#8220;crossfire&#8221;.</p>
<p>Not that a 3rd party or no-party candidate can&#8217;t win; but it&#8217;s a sure way to draw fire from two sources instead of only one.</p>
<p>Plus it could lead to something like the Brits have; which amounts to shear bedlam; take a look at how many political parties are over there and you&#8217;ll understand why they&#8217;re in far worse shape than even we are.</p>
<p>Labour Party<br />
Conservative Party<br />
Liberal Democrats<br />
Democratic Unionist Party<br />
Scottish National Party<br />
Sinn Féin<br />
Plaid Cymru &#8211; Party of Wales<br />
Social Democratic and Labour Party<br />
Independent Kidderminster Hospital and Health Concern<br />
Respect Coalition<br />
Ulster Unionist Party<br />
Scottish Green Party<br />
Alliance Party of Northern Ireland<br />
Progressive Unionist Party<br />
Green Party in Northern Ireland<br />
Green Party of England and Wales<br />
UK Independence Party<br />
British National Party<br />
Boston Bypass Independents<br />
Community Action Party<br />
Community (London Borough of Hounslow)<br />
England First Party<br />
English Democrats Party<br />
English Progressive and Liberty Party<br />
Free England Party<br />
Idle Toad<br />
Mebyon Kernow<br />
Men&#8217;s Representative Party<br />
Middlewich First<br />
Miss Great Britain Party<br />
Money Reform Party<br />
Morecambe Bay Independents<br />
Mum&#8217;s Army<br />
Residents Associations of Epsom and Ewell<br />
National Liberal Party &#8211; The Third Way<br />
One London<br />
People Against Bureaucracy Group<br />
Popular Alliance<br />
Roman Party Ave!<br />
SOS! Voters Against Overdevelopment of Northampton<br />
Social Democratic Party<br />
South Tyneside Progressives,<br />
Southampton First<br />
Wessex Regionalist Party</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Dobb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Dobb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 11:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Well over 500 people in attendance, and a diverse spectrum of anti-government political views, even if everyone was white. (well, except for one Asian dude.)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ed:

How was the tea party&#039;s racial composition relevant to anything?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Well over 500 people in attendance, and a diverse spectrum of anti-government political views, even if everyone was white. (well, except for one Asian dude.)</p></blockquote>
<p>Ed:</p>
<p>How was the tea party&#8217;s racial composition relevant to anything?</p>
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		<title>By: Brenda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 05:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m a little perplexed by Schiff’s remark that he would be wasting his time by running as an independent. If he sees the current approach to government as so flawed, why does he feel motivated to run as a member of the party that is 50% responsible for the problems we’re facing?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The correct term is &quot;a petitioning candidate&quot; not &quot;an independent.&quot;  I see you&#039;re trying to petition your way on to the ballot as well.  What party were you affiliated with last year when you voted in the presidential preference primary?

You also might want to follow the campaign finance laws and include the name of your treasurer where necessary before someone complains to the SEEC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’m a little perplexed by Schiff’s remark that he would be wasting his time by running as an independent. If he sees the current approach to government as so flawed, why does he feel motivated to run as a member of the party that is 50% responsible for the problems we’re facing?</p></blockquote>
<p>The correct term is &#8220;a petitioning candidate&#8221; not &#8220;an independent.&#8221;  I see you&#8217;re trying to petition your way on to the ballot as well.  What party were you affiliated with last year when you voted in the presidential preference primary?</p>
<p>You also might want to follow the campaign finance laws and include the name of your treasurer where necessary before someone complains to the SEEC.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 03:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moderation is annoying.

Scoop, I know the Fed isn&#039;t sexy.  But if Dodd refuses to demand answers on who got the $2.2 trillion... yet fail to deliver on a less expensive public option... I don&#039;t see why any dem would bother voting for him.  And heck, if Harry can&#039;t deliver with 60 votes... who cares if there&#039;s only 59 votes.

The excitement factor could be a problem for Dodd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moderation is annoying.</p>
<p>Scoop, I know the Fed isn&#8217;t sexy.  But if Dodd refuses to demand answers on who got the $2.2 trillion&#8230; yet fail to deliver on a less expensive public option&#8230; I don&#8217;t see why any dem would bother voting for him.  And heck, if Harry can&#8217;t deliver with 60 votes&#8230; who cares if there&#8217;s only 59 votes.</p>
<p>The excitement factor could be a problem for Dodd.</p>
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		<title>By: Brenda</title>
		<link>http://ctlocalpolitics.net//2009/07/06/guest-post-schiff-at-tea-party-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-46963</link>
		<dc:creator>Brenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 03:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Of course, Peter Schiff  and any other candidate could bypass the GOP Convention and use the Direct Primary route to the ballot.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes he can do that.  I highly doubt he&#039;ll collect the necessary signatures and if he does, there is no way he can win a primary.

I think you perfectly laid out the huge hurdles that are virtually impossible for him to overcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Of course, Peter Schiff  and any other candidate could bypass the GOP Convention and use the Direct Primary route to the ballot.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes he can do that.  I highly doubt he&#8217;ll collect the necessary signatures and if he does, there is no way he can win a primary.</p>
<p>I think you perfectly laid out the huge hurdles that are virtually impossible for him to overcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Brenda</title>
		<link>http://ctlocalpolitics.net//2009/07/06/guest-post-schiff-at-tea-party-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-46962</link>
		<dc:creator>Brenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 03:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree Anderson, Schiff has no chance getting the Republican nomination.</description>
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		<title>By: Weicker Liker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weicker Liker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 03:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anderson....

Of course, Peter Schiff  and any other candidate could bypass the GOP Convention and use the Direct Primary route to the ballot.

He needs to recruit registered Republicans to petition him on the Primary Ballot - with 2% of the Republican Party&#039;s statewide enrollment.

Thats in the neighborhood of just under 9,000.

Would have 21-30 days to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anderson&#8230;.</p>
<p>Of course, Peter Schiff  and any other candidate could bypass the GOP Convention and use the Direct Primary route to the ballot.</p>
<p>He needs to recruit registered Republicans to petition him on the Primary Ballot &#8211; with 2% of the Republican Party&#8217;s statewide enrollment.</p>
<p>Thats in the neighborhood of just under 9,000.</p>
<p>Would have 21-30 days to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: AndersonScooper</title>
		<link>http://ctlocalpolitics.net//2009/07/06/guest-post-schiff-at-tea-party-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-46960</link>
		<dc:creator>AndersonScooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I think Schiff running as an Independent would be his only shot at the seat. That&#039;s why I asked him that question.

How does Peter intend to get the institutional support he&#039;d need to win the nomination? Is he counting on Ron Paul Nation to help him lap the field in fundraising? Or is he hoping for a three or four way race?

I just don&#039;t see his path to the nomination, and certainly not by preaching about economic revolution via the dismantling of the Fed. (Sorry Tim White.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I think Schiff running as an Independent would be his only shot at the seat. That&#8217;s why I asked him that question.</p>
<p>How does Peter intend to get the institutional support he&#8217;d need to win the nomination? Is he counting on Ron Paul Nation to help him lap the field in fundraising? Or is he hoping for a three or four way race?</p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t see his path to the nomination, and certainly not by preaching about economic revolution via the dismantling of the Fed. (Sorry Tim White.)</p>
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		<title>By: SamuelCT</title>
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		<dc:creator>SamuelCT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m a little perplexed by Schiff’s remark that he would be wasting his time by running as an independent. If he sees the current approach to government as so flawed, why does he feel motivated to run as a member of the party that is 50% responsible for the problems we’re facing?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

We don&#039;t have a proportional system in place for electing representatives. That quote illustrates that Schiff is not a total blockheaded idiot.


&lt;blockquote&gt;The circumstances were quite a bit different, but Connecticut did just elect an independent senator less than three years ago. Running as an independent would be healthy for democracy, not a waste of time.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Joe promised Democrats he&#039;d be a Democrat, and 1/3 of them believed him. He promised Republicans that he&#039;d crap all over the Democrats, and 80% of them believed him. I haven&#039;t heard of any Republicans who feel that they haven&#039;t gotten their money&#039;s worth, but he did sort of lie in grand fashion to both groups. 

The idea of being an independent in the system we have today is just the conceit of a truly self-aggrandizing politician -- someone who believes that they alone can be a force for change without working from within a community of peers. That they are an institution for moral righteousness untainted by the insidious forces of (gasp!) politics. I guess some people still feel that way about ol&#039; Joe. 

However, Schiff running as an independent would be helpful to Dodd&#039;s re-election prospects, so I support it whole-heartedly. Schiff, sadly, doesn&#039;t seem like he&#039;s dumb enough to take the bait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’m a little perplexed by Schiff’s remark that he would be wasting his time by running as an independent. If he sees the current approach to government as so flawed, why does he feel motivated to run as a member of the party that is 50% responsible for the problems we’re facing?</p></blockquote>
<p>We don&#8217;t have a proportional system in place for electing representatives. That quote illustrates that Schiff is not a total blockheaded idiot.</p>
<blockquote><p>The circumstances were quite a bit different, but Connecticut did just elect an independent senator less than three years ago. Running as an independent would be healthy for democracy, not a waste of time.</p></blockquote>
<p>Joe promised Democrats he&#8217;d be a Democrat, and 1/3 of them believed him. He promised Republicans that he&#8217;d crap all over the Democrats, and 80% of them believed him. I haven&#8217;t heard of any Republicans who feel that they haven&#8217;t gotten their money&#8217;s worth, but he did sort of lie in grand fashion to both groups. </p>
<p>The idea of being an independent in the system we have today is just the conceit of a truly self-aggrandizing politician &#8212; someone who believes that they alone can be a force for change without working from within a community of peers. That they are an institution for moral righteousness untainted by the insidious forces of (gasp!) politics. I guess some people still feel that way about ol&#8217; Joe. </p>
<p>However, Schiff running as an independent would be helpful to Dodd&#8217;s re-election prospects, so I support it whole-heartedly. Schiff, sadly, doesn&#8217;t seem like he&#8217;s dumb enough to take the bait.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Pesci</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Pesci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like the bell lady</description>
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		<title>By: Don Pesci</title>
		<link>http://ctlocalpolitics.net//2009/07/06/guest-post-schiff-at-tea-party-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-46954</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Pesci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You captured the spirit of the thing</description>
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