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		<title>By: CTPhilosopher</title>
		<link>http://ctlocalpolitics.net//2009/10/30/lieberman-again/comment-page-1/#comment-50672</link>
		<dc:creator>CTPhilosopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He certainly will not be reelected in his next election. Hopefully he won&#039;t make is a painful exit for CT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He certainly will not be reelected in his next election. Hopefully he won&#8217;t make is a painful exit for CT.</p>
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		<title>By: ACR</title>
		<link>http://ctlocalpolitics.net//2009/10/30/lieberman-again/comment-page-1/#comment-50644</link>
		<dc:creator>ACR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 04:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;&lt;i&gt;There were plenty of conservatives, some of them Republicans, who objected to Bush’s reckless spending&lt;/i&gt;

Not just the new so-called &quot;conservatives&quot; who only seem to count &lt;I&gt;social&lt;/i&gt; conservatives as &quot;authentic&quot;;  plenty of Goldwater conservatives (marry your goldfish for all we care) were equally astounded.

That many of us failed to post attack pieces was more to do with the end of his term,  and the 11th commandment, than any lack of actual horror.


BTW - Lurkers, etc. 
Allow me to exempt the one major social conservative worthy of even this libertarian/Republican&#039;s support. 

*SOME* social conservatives, notably Peter Wolfgang,  enjoy such substantial&lt;B&gt; intellectual integrity&lt;/b&gt;  that they&#039;ll line up on the majority of &lt;I&gt; non-social&lt;/i&gt;  conservative issues (even those issues that fail to interest  them)  rather than violate an alliance.

Peter is thus exempt from any &quot;there they go again&quot; charges, as he does not play the same one-way game that others in his camp have been guilty of for decades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;<i>There were plenty of conservatives, some of them Republicans, who objected to Bush’s reckless spending</i></p>
<p>Not just the new so-called &#8220;conservatives&#8221; who only seem to count <i>social</i> conservatives as &#8220;authentic&#8221;;  plenty of Goldwater conservatives (marry your goldfish for all we care) were equally astounded.</p>
<p>That many of us failed to post attack pieces was more to do with the end of his term,  and the 11th commandment, than any lack of actual horror.</p>
<p>BTW &#8211; Lurkers, etc.<br />
Allow me to exempt the one major social conservative worthy of even this libertarian/Republican&#8217;s support. </p>
<p>*SOME* social conservatives, notably Peter Wolfgang,  enjoy such substantial<b> intellectual integrity</b>  that they&#8217;ll line up on the majority of <i> non-social</i>  conservative issues (even those issues that fail to interest  them)  rather than violate an alliance.</p>
<p>Peter is thus exempt from any &#8220;there they go again&#8221; charges, as he does not play the same one-way game that others in his camp have been guilty of for decades.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Pesci</title>
		<link>http://ctlocalpolitics.net//2009/10/30/lieberman-again/comment-page-1/#comment-50643</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Pesci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 03:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There were plenty of conservatives, some of them Republicans, who objected to Bush&#039;s reckless spending, and you won&#039;t find one of them saying the improvident spending was OK because he was followed by St. Obama, who contibued his policies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There were plenty of conservatives, some of them Republicans, who objected to Bush&#8217;s reckless spending, and you won&#8217;t find one of them saying the improvident spending was OK because he was followed by St. Obama, who contibued his policies.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Pesci</title>
		<link>http://ctlocalpolitics.net//2009/10/30/lieberman-again/comment-page-1/#comment-50642</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Pesci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 03:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oldswede,

Obama&#039;s rescue operation is not simply a continuation of Bush&#039;s. It is 1) quantitatively different. One understands the difference between 1 trillion and 4 trillion. And it is 2) qualitatively different. Bush didn’t initiate policies that would have the effect of destroying the insurance industry in CT, Dodd’s and Lieberman’s home turf. At some point Obama and his chorus are going to have to stop whining that everything is Bush’s fault. Man-up. Take ownership. It’s the least a president who vowed change can do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oldswede,</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s rescue operation is not simply a continuation of Bush&#8217;s. It is 1) quantitatively different. One understands the difference between 1 trillion and 4 trillion. And it is 2) qualitatively different. Bush didn’t initiate policies that would have the effect of destroying the insurance industry in CT, Dodd’s and Lieberman’s home turf. At some point Obama and his chorus are going to have to stop whining that everything is Bush’s fault. Man-up. Take ownership. It’s the least a president who vowed change can do.</p>
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		<title>By: oldswede</title>
		<link>http://ctlocalpolitics.net//2009/10/30/lieberman-again/comment-page-1/#comment-50641</link>
		<dc:creator>oldswede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 02:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey DP, 
The car went off the cliff during the W misadministration. No whining was heard then, strangely. Obama is running a rescue operation and Joe Lie is blocking it. What a hero.
oldswede</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey DP,<br />
The car went off the cliff during the W misadministration. No whining was heard then, strangely. Obama is running a rescue operation and Joe Lie is blocking it. What a hero.<br />
oldswede</p>
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		<title>By: Don Pesci</title>
		<link>http://ctlocalpolitics.net//2009/10/30/lieberman-again/comment-page-1/#comment-50640</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Pesci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you’re driving a car off a cliff, it’s always a bit ingenuous to claim that the passenger in the back seat crying “Halt! is “whining.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you’re driving a car off a cliff, it’s always a bit ingenuous to claim that the passenger in the back seat crying “Halt! is “whining.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Rubenstein</title>
		<link>http://ctlocalpolitics.net//2009/10/30/lieberman-again/comment-page-1/#comment-50637</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Rubenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont believe Lieberman is on a quest  to get rich, he already is rich by any measurable standard.I think he votes and  acts the way he does out of  principle...his principle.The only time he takes  the voter into account  is  when the voters agree with his stance on an issue, otherwise he does his own thing.He seems  to like being the contrarian role in the Democratic Caucus and the attention it brings.I  for one, find myself virtually 100 % in disagreement with his political views and stances to the extent that 2012  wont come soon enough  for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont believe Lieberman is on a quest  to get rich, he already is rich by any measurable standard.I think he votes and  acts the way he does out of  principle&#8230;his principle.The only time he takes  the voter into account  is  when the voters agree with his stance on an issue, otherwise he does his own thing.He seems  to like being the contrarian role in the Democratic Caucus and the attention it brings.I  for one, find myself virtually 100 % in disagreement with his political views and stances to the extent that 2012  wont come soon enough  for me.</p>
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		<title>By: BJRuhe</title>
		<link>http://ctlocalpolitics.net//2009/10/30/lieberman-again/comment-page-1/#comment-50636</link>
		<dc:creator>BJRuhe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a Republican and I would not want Joe Lieberman any where near me or my party. He needs to retire--preferably to another state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Republican and I would not want Joe Lieberman any where near me or my party. He needs to retire&#8211;preferably to another state.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim White</title>
		<link>http://ctlocalpolitics.net//2009/10/30/lieberman-again/comment-page-1/#comment-50634</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 04:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Chris Dodd, love him or hate him, is right at the center of... financial regulations reform&lt;/blockquote&gt;ha!  Catastrophes in the making.

Dodd should know the correct answer is to begin a serious discussion about:

1) ending fiat money
2) ending fractional reserve banking
3) ending the federal reserve

But instead he spends his time speaking to Jane Hamsher about something he will never do... ask Bernanke for the names of the bailout banks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Chris Dodd, love him or hate him, is right at the center of&#8230; financial regulations reform</p></blockquote>
<p>ha!  Catastrophes in the making.</p>
<p>Dodd should know the correct answer is to begin a serious discussion about:</p>
<p>1) ending fiat money<br />
2) ending fractional reserve banking<br />
3) ending the federal reserve</p>
<p>But instead he spends his time speaking to Jane Hamsher about something he will never do&#8230; ask Bernanke for the names of the bailout banks.</p>
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		<title>By: ACR</title>
		<link>http://ctlocalpolitics.net//2009/10/30/lieberman-again/comment-page-1/#comment-50633</link>
		<dc:creator>ACR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;&lt;I&gt;he’s an attention hungry lunatic with self-aggrandizement as his only goal.&lt;/i&gt;

No, that would be Atty. General Blumenthal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;<i>he’s an attention hungry lunatic with self-aggrandizement as his only goal.</i></p>
<p>No, that would be Atty. General Blumenthal.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Pesci</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Pesci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the sort of “security breech” that makes journalists fall on their knees and exclaim with loud hosannas – “There is a God!”

Owing to an accidental security breech, the deliberations of the US Congressional Ethics Committee have now been flushed into the public square.

Reporters are now sifting through the detritus.

An advanced copy of the report, I am told, has been secured by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abcnews.go.com/Business/WireStory?id=8955108&amp;page=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ken Krayeske&lt;/a&gt;.

Watch out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the sort of “security breech” that makes journalists fall on their knees and exclaim with loud hosannas – “There is a God!”</p>
<p>Owing to an accidental security breech, the deliberations of the US Congressional Ethics Committee have now been flushed into the public square.</p>
<p>Reporters are now sifting through the detritus.</p>
<p>An advanced copy of the report, I am told, has been secured by <a href="http://www.abcnews.go.com/Business/WireStory?id=8955108&amp;page=1" rel="nofollow">Ken Krayeske</a>.</p>
<p>Watch out!</p>
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		<title>By: ken krayeske</title>
		<link>http://ctlocalpolitics.net//2009/10/30/lieberman-again/comment-page-1/#comment-50629</link>
		<dc:creator>ken krayeske</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or, Lieberman&#039;s trying to get rich, as Glenn Greenwald suggests. 

Here&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/glenn-greenwald-lieberman-and-bayh-enrichi&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Greenwald on Rachel Maddow&#039;s show&lt;/a&gt;:

I think clearly what it’s about is primarily that fact that the industry that he’s serving by doing this—by preventing competition with the public option—is an industry from which he receives very substantial benefits. He’s drowning in campaign contributions from the insurance industry, the health care industry, the pharmaceutical industry—more than $2.5 million.

In early 2005 his wife was hired by a large P.R. firm, Hill &amp; Knowlton, in the pharmaceutical division, which at the time was representing the health care giant Glaxo in major legislation before the Senate. And several months later Joe Lieberman was on the floor of the Senate offering legislation that would directly steer huge amounts of incentives to that company in order to develop vaccines.

So I think what you’re seeing here is the kind of legalized corruption, legalized bribery that runs the United States Senate; only in this case it’s particularly sleazy and transparent because Lieberman is ready to gut the major initiative of the Democratic Party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or, Lieberman&#8217;s trying to get rich, as Glenn Greenwald suggests. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s <a href="http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/glenn-greenwald-lieberman-and-bayh-enrichi" rel="nofollow">Greenwald on Rachel Maddow&#8217;s show</a>:</p>
<p>I think clearly what it’s about is primarily that fact that the industry that he’s serving by doing this—by preventing competition with the public option—is an industry from which he receives very substantial benefits. He’s drowning in campaign contributions from the insurance industry, the health care industry, the pharmaceutical industry—more than $2.5 million.</p>
<p>In early 2005 his wife was hired by a large P.R. firm, Hill &amp; Knowlton, in the pharmaceutical division, which at the time was representing the health care giant Glaxo in major legislation before the Senate. And several months later Joe Lieberman was on the floor of the Senate offering legislation that would directly steer huge amounts of incentives to that company in order to develop vaccines.</p>
<p>So I think what you’re seeing here is the kind of legalized corruption, legalized bribery that runs the United States Senate; only in this case it’s particularly sleazy and transparent because Lieberman is ready to gut the major initiative of the Democratic Party.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Kantrowitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Kantrowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, either he&#039;s honestly and sincerely a complete idiot, with no regard for his constituents and no ability to judge what&#039;s best for his country (the U.S.) and his state (CT) or he&#039;s an attention hungry lunatic with self-aggrandisement as his only goal.  I can&#039;t decide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, either he&#8217;s honestly and sincerely a complete idiot, with no regard for his constituents and no ability to judge what&#8217;s best for his country (the U.S.) and his state (CT) or he&#8217;s an attention hungry lunatic with self-aggrandisement as his only goal.  I can&#8217;t decide.</p>
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		<title>By: rogersugrue</title>
		<link>http://ctlocalpolitics.net//2009/10/30/lieberman-again/comment-page-1/#comment-50622</link>
		<dc:creator>rogersugrue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally disagree with your analysis on this. I don&#039;t agree with Lieberman on a lot of issues but to say he is only bi-partisan just to get attention isn&#039;t fair. In the same article he says that he will support Dodd. If he really wanted to get attention he&#039;d say that he MIGHT be open to supporting a Republican. But nope, it sounds pretty definitive that he is with Dodd.

I think Lieberman does whatever he thinks is best at that given point. I often disagree with his conclusions but I think we should respect him for his honesty and sincerity (not insincerity as you suggest).

Just because he doesn&#039;t vote lock step with Harry Reids far left agenda doesn&#039;t make him a bad guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally disagree with your analysis on this. I don&#8217;t agree with Lieberman on a lot of issues but to say he is only bi-partisan just to get attention isn&#8217;t fair. In the same article he says that he will support Dodd. If he really wanted to get attention he&#8217;d say that he MIGHT be open to supporting a Republican. But nope, it sounds pretty definitive that he is with Dodd.</p>
<p>I think Lieberman does whatever he thinks is best at that given point. I often disagree with his conclusions but I think we should respect him for his honesty and sincerity (not insincerity as you suggest).</p>
<p>Just because he doesn&#8217;t vote lock step with Harry Reids far left agenda doesn&#8217;t make him a bad guy.</p>
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		<title>By: GoatBoyPHD</title>
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		<dc:creator>GoatBoyPHD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Palpatine is waiting for the day after election day 2012 to announce his switch to the GOP party revealing his disfigured face and shouting &quot;Power! Unlimited power!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Palpatine is waiting for the day after election day 2012 to announce his switch to the GOP party revealing his disfigured face and shouting &#8220;Power! Unlimited power!&#8221;</p>
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